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[Reporter] The BBC understands
that a former Russian spy

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is in a critical condition
in hospital in wiltshire.

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They were severely critically
ill, developing multi-organ failure.

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It's such a crazy kinda
story, it's almost unbelievable.

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[Man] I knew it was novichok,
a military-grade nerve agent.

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Even tiny amounts can kill
tens of thousands of people.

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[Sirens wailing]

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This is being treated as a major
incident involving attempted murder

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via a nerve agent.

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She was staring at nothing

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and foaming at the mouth.

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The first time in a century

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a chemical weapon had
been used in Western Europe.

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"It's only a matter of time
before I slip into a coma and die."

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[Theresa may] It is now clear
Mr. Skripal and his daughter

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were poisoned with a
military-grade nerve agent

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of the type developed by Russia.

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There was absolutely no
doubt that this is an operation

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controlled by Vladimir putin

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through Russian
military intelligence.

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The intent is to kill people.

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I've been caught up in an
international assassination attempt.

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The substance could potentially
be anywhere in the city.

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It was as though a bomb had
gone off on the streets of Salisbury.

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Ordinary people caught in
absolutely extraordinary circumstances.

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He's like, "I've literally
poisoned my girlfriend."

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You know?

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"Unknowingly, I've
killed me girlfriend."

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[Man] People would come from
far and wide to Salisbury to visit.

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It's always had a very nice
kind of feel and atmosphere.

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Such a small city.

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I was just a normal guy,

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a normal police
officer doing his job

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before march the
4th, 2018 happened.

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And it changed my life forever.

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My name is Nick Bailey.

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I was a detective sergeant

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in the criminal investigation
department in Salisbury.

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I was at my desk in
bourne hill police station.

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I just remember
hearing a call on the radio

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about two people that were found

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in the maltings, in the city.

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It's a stone's throw,
effectively, from the cathedral.

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They were unconscious
and slumped on a park bench,

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heavily salivating.

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[Woman] The air
ambulance had been spotted

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over Salisbury city center.

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And as I was heading
home that way,

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I said I would go
and investigate it.

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My name is Rebecca Hudson

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and I was a trainee reporter
at the Salisbury journal.

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There was a police cordon.

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They said that it was a couple who had
suffered some sort of drug-related incident

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and been taken to
hospital as a result.

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We didn't know anything about
what condition they were in.

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But to have that police cordon
seemed bizarre at the time,

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and it sparked a lot
of curiosity, I think.

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On the bench over there

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there was a man being
sick on the floor, leant over,

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and a woman lying on the floor.

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She was sort of leant in on him,

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it looked like she'd
passed out maybe.

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He was doing some
strange hand movements,

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looking up to the sky.

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Nobody knew what was going on,
we didn't know what had happened,

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we didn't know if a
crime had taken place.

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Maybe they'd been contaminated
or poisoned with something.

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It could have been
a drugs overdose.

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Didn't really know
why they were that ill.

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One of the police officers
said, "you might want to stay

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because something
interesting is going to happen."

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And when the fire crews arrived,

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a couple of them immediately

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started to put their
chemical Hazmat suits on.

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It looked like they were
swabbing the bench.

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And then we realized they
were cleaning something up,

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someone at the scene
had said it was vomit,

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and began a fairly
lengthy process of bagging

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and double-bagging and
triple-bagging this vomit up,

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and then put it inside
a metal container.

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I just didn't know why they
were taking so many precautions.

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There was no
explanation at the time.

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My uniformed colleagues
had found a driver's license,

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and on the driver's license it
said the name Sergei skripal

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and gave a local
Salisbury address.

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One of my team googled
Sergei skripal's name.

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I remember vividly him saying, "sarge,
you're gonna need to come and see this."

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And I walked over and looked
over his shoulder at the computer,

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and it was a picture
of Sergei skripal,

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and it was a newspaper headline.

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And it basically said that
he was a former Russian spy

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who'd been released as part of
some kind of international spy swap.

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That information
changed everything.

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He was deemed to
be a traitor to Russia.

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The biggest spy swap
since the cold war.

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[Reporter 1] Two planes, one
from america and one from Russia,

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met on the tarmac.

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[Reporter 2] The four men who
were released from Russian prisons

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had all been convicted of handling
highly classified information.

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[Speaking Russian]

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[Speaking Russian]

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[Dramatic music]

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[Nick] Sergei skripal was
not just a Russian spy,

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but a former double
agent working for MI6.

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He chose Salisbury, or
MI6 chose Salisbury for him.

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It is amazing that he'd gone
from being behind bars in Russia

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to suddenly being here,
in little old Salisbury.

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[Man] That is the first
time that I become aware

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that we've got a Russian spy
who was actually living in Salisbury.

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I'm Paul mills, I'm the deputy
chief constable of wiltshire police.

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The Salisbury
poisonings, without doubt,

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was the most complex, challenging policing
incident I've ever been involved in.

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[Man over radio] Approaching
christie Miller road.

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[Mills] After the
incident on the Sunday,

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we've got three officers that we decide
will go into Mr. Skripal's home address

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to look to see whether
there's any information or clues

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which would indicate
actually how they'd become ill.

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[Man over radio] They've
obtained key from the neighbor.

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[Rebecca] As a girl in her
early 20s in Salisbury at the time,

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I never in my wildest dreams

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thought I would
be writing headlines

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that were referencing
a spy living in Salisbury.

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To find out that there was a
spy living in christie Miller road,

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which was a road I'd walked past

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on my way to and
from school even,

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was bizarre, I couldn't
make any sense of it.

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We had to borrow
suits from the fire station,

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latex gloves, goggles and masks,
like, kind of breathing masks.

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We had to protect
the scene from us.

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We got kitted up on the
driveway of the house.

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So I unlocked the front door

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and undid the handle and
walked into Sergei skripal's house.

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I did think,

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"why is a former Russian
spy living in Salisbury?

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And how did we not
know that he was there?"

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Surely we should
have been made aware.

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By all accounts, no one knew.

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There was nothing
obvious in the house

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that would give us
any more of an idea

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as to why they were in
critical condition in hospital.

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I went home after
a 15-16 hour shift.

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I think I left the police station
at about half six in the morning.

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And I remember feeling
a bit kind of sweaty,

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my forehead was sweaty,

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which I put down
to just kind of...

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[Chuckles bitterly]
Stress and exhaustion.

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And I remember, as well,

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my pupils were quite small.

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But I didn't think
anything more of it.

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[Radio] A man and a woman

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are in hospital after an
incident in the maltings

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in Salisbury
yesterday afternoon.

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Firefighters were also called to
assist with a hazardous material.

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[Man] Salisbury's fairly sleepy.

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Who would have thought
someone had a spy living next door.

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My name is James haslam,

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I'm a consultant in anesthesia

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and intensive care
medicine here in Salisbury.

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I remember coming into
work on the Monday morning,

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was about to take over
the icu for the week.

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I'd heard that there'd been two
patients admitted the previous afternoon.

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There was an older
gentleman and a younger lady.

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They were getting
sicker and sicker.

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[Woman] In terms
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in the first 24-48 hours,

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it was a bit of a mystery

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why they were
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Whether that was an overdose,

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whether it was an
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what had caused this?

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They were critically ill,

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they were requiring
full life support.

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[Dr. Haslam] In the handover, the working
diagnosis was opioid poisoning or toxicity.

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And I just, in my gut, I felt
like that wasn't quite right.

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They were
severely, critically ill,

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developing multi-organ failure.

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I thought, at that stage, it was likely
to have been an assassination attempt.

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And then your mind starts
spiraling as to what that means.

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I spent most of the night
on the Internet, researching.

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[Man] I got a phone
call from a doctor saying,

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"there has been an incident
in Salisbury, it's really bizarre.

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We think it might be some
sort of chemical incident.

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We're really unsure
what it is, so stand by.

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We might need some advice."

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My name is Hamish
De bretton-Gordon,

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I commanded the cbrn regiment,

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chemical, biological,
radiological and nuclear,

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for the UK and for NATO.

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When I saw the first pictures

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of Sergei skripal on the bench,

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almost frozen,

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it looked like this is
probably a nerve agent.

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And that's when the
alarm bells started ringing.

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[Heart monitors beeping]

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[Dr. Haslam] There was a real
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which we didn't know much about.

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What we had to do was
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of drugs that would
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and hopefully give
them time to get better.

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I was concerned
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I was worried that
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I was stunned.

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I mean, I'd dealt with biological
weapons attacks by al-qaeda,

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in both Iraq and Afghanistan,

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I had personally experienced
a chemical attack in Syria.

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One of the shocking
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this is right on our doorstep,

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my family were in
Salisbury at the time.

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I rang my wife,

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"guys, you need to be careful.

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You're gonna hear pretty soon,

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this is gonna go
stratospheric in the media,

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there's a chemical
attack in Salisbury,

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there's something pretty
horrendous out there,

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we don't know what it is.

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I'd suggest you
stay out of the place."

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[Rebecca] The motto
for thesalisbury journal

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was "the heartbeat
of your community."

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You're just covering the small, often
fun stories that people love to read

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but that don't hold a
huge deal of news value.

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A cow that gave
birth to triplets,

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a cat that was stuck
under the bonnet of a car.

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This is the picture that our
photographer took at the scene,

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which then was used
all throughout the world.

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Given the level of secrecy,

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I was very proud
that we got this picture

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because there was
nobody else there

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who was documenting
what had happened.

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That picture was the beginning

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of Salisbury being known for an
international nerve agent attack

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on a Russian double agent.

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The biggest story
that I would ever cover,

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and I think that
Salisbury would ever see.

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[Nick] That Monday
morning I wasn't due to work.

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Three o'clock in the afternoon

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I was woken by a
phone call from work

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asking me some questions
about the events of the night before.

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I was a little bit anxious
about how I was feeling.

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I just didn't feel good at all.

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The start of a
migraine... I don't know.

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And at that point, I just put it
down to, I must be... just exhaustion.

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My wife and two
girls were at home

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and I said, "why I've
been at work for so long?

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Because we're dealing with
something that is potentially quite big,

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but we don't know a lot yet,

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but it's very strange,
it's very quite sinister."

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The BBC understands
that a former Russian spy

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is in a critical condition

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in hospital in wiltshire

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along with a
woman in her thirties.

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A major incident was declared

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and decontamination
teams were called

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into the local hospital
and part of the city.

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[Woman] "Is this some
kind of toxic poisoning?

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How many people could
potentially be at risk of harm?"

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To me was the thing that
was keeping me awake at night.

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My name is Tracy daszkiewicz.

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I was director of public
health for the wiltshire council

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during the time of the
Salisbury poisonings.

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"Was it an
assassination attempt?"

261
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Those sorts of
questions start to emerge.

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That's a really
horrible feeling,

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that something like that
can happen in peace time

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in a place like Salisbury.

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The information
that was disclosed,

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I wasn't able to share
that with anybody.

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A nerve agent is
a chemical weapon

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developed by the Nazis.

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One molecule of this
stuff is enough to kill you.

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The challenge then is to
work out where it could be.

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[Tracy] The imagination
then breeds fear and anxiety.

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In those early days,

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it could've easily been full
scale of fatalities and casualties.

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[Rebecca] At thejournal,
we had heard a rumor

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that there was runoff
from the nerve agent

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in the river avon.

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And that that was
flowing through the city

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and that that had come
about when the fire service

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hosed down the bench
the skripals were found on.

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Ducks and swans in the city
were being poisoned or were dying.

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We couldn't rule any
of these rumors out.

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This substance could
potentially be anywhere in the city

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and that anyone could
have come into contact with it.

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[Tracy] For the community
living in Salisbury,

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it was frightening,
unusual, very scary.

286
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It's quite daunting really,
and it's just quite worrying

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to know what's
gonna happen next.

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Because the fact there's a
Russian spy living right next door

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and we never knew about it.

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And then for something
like this to happen,

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it's quite concerning.

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People are nervous about it

293
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because it's so close to home.

294
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It's the not knowing and
what's going on, really.

295
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I mean, there's a lot of security
around and a lot of police around.

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So, yeah.

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Within the space of less
than 24 hours, it was clear

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it was clear that there was a
major incident evolving here.

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The world's press
descended upon Salisbury.

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[Woman] It was becoming crazy.

301
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The city streets themselves
are part of the news.

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My name is Olga ivshina,

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I'm a senior reporter
for BBC Russian service.

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I was on the phone
talking Russian.

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Just saw that there is
an old lady staring at me

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and sort of waiting
for me to finish the call.

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I put down the
phone and she said,

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"oh, it's you Russians! What
have you done to our city?

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What have you done?
Why do you do this to us?"

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It was a moment which
told you the story, in a way.

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How frightened and
angry people are.

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There you are in Salisbury,

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but give us your perspective

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as a journalist for the BBC
Russian service, about how this...

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[Olga] I was the only Russian
speaker which worked on that news.

316
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And they said, "listen,
your job is very important.

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To learn more
about Sergei skripal,

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about his family, about
his past in Russia."

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We know that there
was someone with Sergei,

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some other woman who
was sitting next to him

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and who's also in the
hospital at the moment

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in a very bad condition.

323
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But that's it, we didn't
know anything else.

324
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During these days, BBC
spoke to a number of experts,

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and all say that we
should be cautious...

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And certainly we shouldn't issue
any accusations at the moment.

327
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Some day, at like
six A.M. London time,

328
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I got a message saying,

329
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"yes, I am a niece of
Sergei skripal, call me."

330
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[Speaking Russian]

331
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You could hear
her voice trembling.

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And then she said,

333
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"what's going on, is she alive?"

334
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And then I had to tell her that she's
in the hospital in critical condition.

335
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[Dr. Haslam] By this
stage, on the Tuesday,

336
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the patients were
close to death.

337
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We had armed guards
at the end of our icu.

338
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Is anybody gonna come back
and try and finish our patients off?

339
00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:51,931
And could we get
caught in any crossfire?

340
00:19:51,965 --> 00:19:54,275
That was certainly something
that we worried about.

341
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[Machines beeping]

342
00:20:02,758 --> 00:20:04,413
[Olga] When
viktoria skripal said,

343
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"what have they done to him?"

344
00:20:05,724 --> 00:20:08,448
I asked her, "who do you mean?"

345
00:20:08,482 --> 00:20:12,793
And she said, "security services,
Russian security services."

346
00:20:12,827 --> 00:20:15,000
That was her initial reaction.

347
00:20:30,241 --> 00:20:32,631
[Nick] Tuesday night, that's when
things started to change for me.

348
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They were like nightmares
or hallucinations.

349
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Like, pure hate and flames
right in front of my eyes.

350
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As if you were able to get close
enough to the surface of the sun,

351
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it was like a Tsunami
of pure hate and fire.

352
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That was terrifying, but when
I woke up I was boiling hot

353
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and I was literally
pouring with sweat,

354
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just pouring with sweat.

355
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And I got out of bed and
I staggered downstairs

356
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'cause I needed to
get a drink of water,

357
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and I felt really, really
unsteady on my feet.

358
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And my vision was impaired,

359
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it was like still frames that
were jittering from one to the next,

360
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that's how my eyesight was,

361
00:21:09,413 --> 00:21:10,620
and it was horrible.

362
00:21:10,655 --> 00:21:12,975
I looked at the mirror again
and my pupils were still tiny,

363
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,068
and I was scared, physically,
by how I was feeling.

364
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It was terrifying,

365
00:21:25,344 --> 00:21:27,689
so I went to
hospital, to aandE.

366
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That's the first
time I met James.

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[Dr. Haslam] I went
down to examine him

368
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and, by this stage,

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I know what nerve
agent poisoning looks like,

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although nothing had
been officially confirmed.

371
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But there were lots of
conversations behind closed doors.

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[Hamish] I've seen how
these things kill people.

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So, when your body
starts shutting down,

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the initial look is statuesque,

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where people are frozen

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because their
muscles can't move.

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There will be choking
because you can't breathe,

378
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you get pin-pointed pupils

379
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because your eyes
are shutting down.

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[Dr. Haslam] I had to
break the news to him

381
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that there was a class of
nerve agents called "novichok,"

382
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something that is
extremely terrifying.

383
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It was designed to kill

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on a mass scale.

385
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And then there is the
horror, the fear factor,

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of being poisoned.

387
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[Nick] James came in and said,

388
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"you have a nerve agent
called novichok in your system."

389
00:22:32,241 --> 00:22:35,103
We were in completely
unknown territory now.

390
00:22:35,137 --> 00:22:38,931
I'd been caught up in an
international assassination attempt.

391
00:22:38,965 --> 00:22:41,344
Even the staff of the
hospital were scared

392
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about how this was gonna work

393
00:22:44,241 --> 00:22:45,310
and what was going on.

394
00:22:45,344 --> 00:22:48,310
And I... yeah, it's pure terror.

395
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I cried a lot

396
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'cause I was so scared.

397
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,862
I thought it's only
a matter of time

398
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before I slip into
a coma and die.

399
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[Machines beeping]

400
00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:04,965
[Dr. Haslam] I felt
under a lot of pressure.

401
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,172
I was really worried
about my three patients.

402
00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:09,724
The ramifications were
starting to play out in my mind.

403
00:23:09,758 --> 00:23:13,827
This is going to be some
sort of international scandal

404
00:23:14,724 --> 00:23:15,689
if one of them died.

405
00:23:15,724 --> 00:23:18,379
That could be the start of war.

406
00:23:20,689 --> 00:23:25,724
[Woman] It was outrageous
that two people living in Salisbury

407
00:23:25,758 --> 00:23:27,551
had been attacked in this way.

408
00:23:27,586 --> 00:23:31,241
It was as though a bomb had
gone off on the streets of Salisbury.

409
00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:33,793
This was almost an act of war.

410
00:23:34,896 --> 00:23:37,137
As a cabinet minister
and as a home secretary,

411
00:23:37,172 --> 00:23:41,068
you feel the affrontery,
really, of the violence

412
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of this act on British soil.

413
00:23:43,517 --> 00:23:47,758
And so we attributed
it as a terrorist attack.

414
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Until we could actually
pinpoint it as attributed

415
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to an individual
leading a nation-state.

416
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[Camera shutters clicking]

417
00:23:57,034 --> 00:23:59,234
[Man shouts] Are you ready
to retaliate, prime minister?

418
00:23:59,862 --> 00:24:02,137
How will you hit back?

419
00:24:02,172 --> 00:24:07,000
[Amber rudd] But Theresa may was
determined that we shouldn't rush it

420
00:24:07,034 --> 00:24:09,275
in order to have
a proper response.

421
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:13,862
[Man] It's hard to imagine a situation
where the stakes could be higher.

422
00:24:13,896 --> 00:24:15,724
"International
terrorist operations"

423
00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:18,172
fundamentally goes to
the defense of the realm

424
00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:19,689
and the security of the country.

425
00:24:20,896 --> 00:24:22,068
My name is Mark rowley.

426
00:24:22,103 --> 00:24:24,517
When the Salisbury
poisonings happened,

427
00:24:24,551 --> 00:24:27,206
I was the head of UK
counter terrorism policing,

428
00:24:27,241 --> 00:24:29,758
leading that national
responsibility from Scotland yard.

429
00:24:31,827 --> 00:24:34,448
[Rowley] It is being
treated as a major incident

430
00:24:34,482 --> 00:24:36,413
involving attempted murder

431
00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:38,896
by administration
of a nerve agent

432
00:24:41,103 --> 00:24:44,896
finding the weapon,
finding the suspects

433
00:24:44,931 --> 00:24:47,068
was a massively high priority.

434
00:24:47,103 --> 00:24:50,068
The challenge was we didn't
know how it'd been brought in,

435
00:24:50,103 --> 00:24:51,758
and who'd brought it in.

436
00:24:51,793 --> 00:24:53,000
So many unknowns.

437
00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:57,631
[Paul mills] What's
really, really critical

438
00:24:57,655 --> 00:24:59,103
is to catch those
who have done it.

439
00:24:59,137 --> 00:25:01,448
It was tense, but
we had a job to do.

440
00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:04,689
The counter-terrorism police

441
00:25:04,724 --> 00:25:08,068
had to firstly establish where the
skripals had actually been poisoned

442
00:25:08,103 --> 00:25:09,862
and ultimately, by who.

443
00:25:09,896 --> 00:25:12,000
Clearly at the center
of that was cctv.

444
00:25:13,724 --> 00:25:17,344
Piecing all of that together and
then tracing that back to Russia

445
00:25:17,379 --> 00:25:23,103
was one of the most complex investigations
I would say in recent policing history.

446
00:25:25,379 --> 00:25:28,275
[Mark rowley] We've got the police
forensic experts on the ground,

447
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:30,103
armed specialist
protection officers

448
00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:32,827
protecting the
skripals at the hospital.

449
00:25:32,862 --> 00:25:34,896
The lead intelligence
agencies, mi5 and MI6,

450
00:25:34,931 --> 00:25:36,586
it's like bringing an
orchestra together

451
00:25:37,275 --> 00:25:40,000
from scratch at high speed.

452
00:25:41,482 --> 00:25:44,275
One of the key
things about novichok

453
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:46,172
that the Russians
designed into it,

454
00:25:46,206 --> 00:25:47,310
that it was undetectable.

455
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:52,206
And after they were first
infected with nerve agent,

456
00:25:52,241 --> 00:25:54,068
they were spreading
contamination.

457
00:25:54,103 --> 00:25:55,551
It's a bit like your DNA,

458
00:25:55,586 --> 00:25:57,758
you leave it whatever you touch.

459
00:25:57,793 --> 00:26:00,517
So one had to find the source

460
00:26:00,551 --> 00:26:03,413
and then track where
the skripals had been.

461
00:26:03,448 --> 00:26:06,448
Trying to trace all the novichok
was a absolute nightmare.

462
00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:13,241
You're looking for the
smallest smears of a liquid

463
00:26:14,275 --> 00:26:15,517
across a whole city.

464
00:26:16,206 --> 00:26:17,689
But the forensic examination

465
00:26:17,724 --> 00:26:20,344
is far harder, far slower

466
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:22,068
than the normal
forensic examination.

467
00:26:22,103 --> 00:26:23,517
It's a long, slow process

468
00:26:23,551 --> 00:26:25,655
requiring immense care.

469
00:26:25,689 --> 00:26:27,827
Being a reporter, you know,

470
00:26:27,862 --> 00:26:29,344
you have to be close.

471
00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:32,103
You can't see it,
but it might be there

472
00:26:32,137 --> 00:26:34,000
and it might be really,
really dangerous.

473
00:26:36,172 --> 00:26:38,655
[Paul mills] We had to
sample every blade of grass,

474
00:26:39,551 --> 00:26:41,620
take it to a mass spectrometer

475
00:26:41,655 --> 00:26:44,620
and work out whether
there was novichok there.

476
00:26:44,655 --> 00:26:46,275
The threat was massive.

477
00:26:49,655 --> 00:26:51,310
[Mark] Due to the
nature of novichok,

478
00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:56,413
this stuff lives for a very, very
long time, it doesn't degrade.

479
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,413
All of those people
that actually responded,

480
00:26:58,448 --> 00:27:00,344
whether or not that
was police officers,

481
00:27:00,379 --> 00:27:03,724
ambulance staff, the hospital,
other members of the public,

482
00:27:03,758 --> 00:27:06,206
that had actually come
into contact with the skripals,

483
00:27:06,241 --> 00:27:07,965
the potential for
chronic illness

484
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,241
meant we had to destroy 18
police vehicles, nine ambulances...

485
00:27:12,275 --> 00:27:14,344
We start to lock
down all of the scenes.

486
00:27:14,379 --> 00:27:16,275
It was huge.

487
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:18,206
[Hamish] We buried 37 vehicles.

488
00:27:18,241 --> 00:27:20,206
So little of it can be fatal

489
00:27:20,241 --> 00:27:22,275
that you have to
track every molecule,

490
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:24,758
but we're talking about millions
and millions of molecules.

491
00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:28,729
[Paul] Early on, every
option has to be on the table

492
00:27:28,758 --> 00:27:29,907
if it's gonna help save lives.

493
00:27:29,931 --> 00:27:32,551
A mass evacuation of
large areas of Salisbury

494
00:27:32,586 --> 00:27:34,137
to protect the public

495
00:27:34,172 --> 00:27:35,344
was a possibility.

496
00:27:37,655 --> 00:27:39,665
[Man] A chemical weapon hadn't
been used in Western Europe

497
00:27:39,689 --> 00:27:41,586
since world war I.

498
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:44,448
And it was clearly
and unlawful use

499
00:27:44,482 --> 00:27:46,758
of a very reckless form of force

500
00:27:46,793 --> 00:27:50,034
against the UK and
against a British citizen.

501
00:27:50,896 --> 00:27:53,551
Novichok was a new nerve agent

502
00:27:53,586 --> 00:27:56,000
developed in the late
years of the Soviet union

503
00:27:56,034 --> 00:27:57,448
in the 1980s.

504
00:27:57,482 --> 00:28:00,206
As soon as it became clear that
the nerve agent was a novichok,

505
00:28:00,241 --> 00:28:06,344
we knew that only Russia
possessed that kind of capability.

506
00:28:06,379 --> 00:28:09,137
Me, as the national security
advisor advising the prime minister,

507
00:28:09,172 --> 00:28:12,413
I was always clear that the
Russians were the prime suspect.

508
00:28:12,448 --> 00:28:13,827
[Speaking Russian]

509
00:28:19,517 --> 00:28:21,482
[Hamish] The Russians
were trying to put across

510
00:28:21,517 --> 00:28:25,655
that this novichok had
not originated in Russia,

511
00:28:25,689 --> 00:28:30,034
creating the view that the
brits were responsible for it,

512
00:28:31,241 --> 00:28:33,275
you know, they'd
done it to themselves.

513
00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:35,896
Near everybody had done
it, except the Russians.

514
00:28:35,931 --> 00:28:38,896
Yet every news channel
was full of this stuff.

515
00:28:38,931 --> 00:28:43,172
Information warfare,
disinformation, or propaganda,

516
00:28:43,206 --> 00:28:45,379
it is part of the
Russian armory.

517
00:28:47,241 --> 00:28:49,137
[Man] Why don't you ask
yourselves the question,

518
00:28:49,172 --> 00:28:52,206
"how can the British
authorities so quickly

519
00:28:53,551 --> 00:28:56,241
manage to designate
the nerve agent used

520
00:28:56,275 --> 00:28:57,965
as something called novichok?

521
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,044
It has a chemical signature
that they were able to...

522
00:29:00,068 --> 00:29:03,758
But when you have a
nerve agent or whatever,

523
00:29:03,793 --> 00:29:07,862
you check it against certain samples
that you retain in your laboratory.

524
00:29:10,137 --> 00:29:12,758
[Man] The defence science
and technology laboratory

525
00:29:12,793 --> 00:29:15,344
at porton down,
just near Salisbury

526
00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:18,896
I've worked with most
of my military career.

527
00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:21,103
They are the world's experts

528
00:29:21,137 --> 00:29:23,827
in chemical and
biological type warfare.

529
00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:28,655
Porton down is the
largest military facility

530
00:29:28,689 --> 00:29:30,000
in the United Kingdom

531
00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:34,448
that has been dealing with
chemical weapons research.

532
00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:39,103
And it's actually only
eight miles from Salisbury.

533
00:29:39,137 --> 00:29:40,620
I've lived in Salisbury
my whole life,

534
00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,344
but I couldn't tell
you a great deal about

535
00:29:42,379 --> 00:29:45,103
what actually goes
on inside porton down.

536
00:29:45,137 --> 00:29:48,517
Porton down does have a
reputation for being quite mysterious,

537
00:29:48,551 --> 00:29:54,448
and for having strange conspiracies
and stories that surround it.

538
00:29:54,482 --> 00:29:58,586
They're investigating aliens,
they're talking about mass poisonings,

539
00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:02,137
they're doing all sorts of
experiments to do with animal testing.

540
00:30:07,965 --> 00:30:09,586
Porton down, I am sure,

541
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:13,965
has the files and details of what
novichok is and how to make it.

542
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,103
We certainly have the formulas

543
00:30:16,137 --> 00:30:19,000
and that was from people
who'd defected from Russia

544
00:30:19,034 --> 00:30:21,137
back in the 70s and 80s.

545
00:30:22,517 --> 00:30:25,310
But the fact that a level
four biosecure laboratory

546
00:30:25,344 --> 00:30:28,068
where the most deadly
pathogens are stored

547
00:30:28,103 --> 00:30:30,344
and worked on is in Salisbury

548
00:30:30,379 --> 00:30:31,827
is just a quirk of fate.

549
00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:34,907
[Olga] For the
Russians, in spy stories,

550
00:30:34,931 --> 00:30:36,517
there is never any coincidence.

551
00:30:36,551 --> 00:30:39,896
You're not suggesting that porton
down is responsible for this nerve agent?

552
00:30:39,931 --> 00:30:41,517
I don't know. I don't know...

553
00:30:41,551 --> 00:30:44,758
I don't have an evidence of
anything be... having been used.

554
00:30:44,793 --> 00:30:51,068
I was following the Russian
take on the story quite closely.

555
00:30:51,103 --> 00:30:54,448
The Salisbury journal
website was flooded

556
00:30:54,482 --> 00:30:57,896
with hundreds of comments
that were from Russia.

557
00:31:01,413 --> 00:31:02,907
[Lord Mark sedwill]
Through various means

558
00:31:02,931 --> 00:31:05,586
they put out dozens and
dozens of different stories,

559
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:08,172
some of them
completely implausible,

560
00:31:08,206 --> 00:31:12,413
just simply in order
to confuse people.

561
00:31:12,448 --> 00:31:16,241
[Speaking Russian]

562
00:31:26,379 --> 00:31:30,000
People believed the
conspiracy narrative.

563
00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:34,758
I think in that first week after the
attack we lost the information war.

564
00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:37,206
[Crowd jeering]

565
00:31:38,862 --> 00:31:42,103
It is now clear that
Mr. Skripal and his daughter

566
00:31:42,137 --> 00:31:47,172
were poisoned with a military-grade
nerve agent known as novichok.

567
00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:50,241
Based on the positive
identification of this chemical agent

568
00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:54,103
by world leading experts at the
defense, science and technology laboratory

569
00:31:54,137 --> 00:31:58,482
at porton down, the government
has concluded that it is highly likely

570
00:31:58,517 --> 00:32:00,275
that Russia was responsible.

571
00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:04,586
[Russian anthem plays]

572
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:08,206
[Lord sedwill] The willingness to use
chemical weapons, targeted assassination,

573
00:32:08,241 --> 00:32:11,931
operations of the kind we
saw against the skripals,

574
00:32:11,965 --> 00:32:16,103
it's inconceivable that a program of
that kind would have been conducted

575
00:32:16,137 --> 00:32:18,448
without the approval
of president putin.

576
00:32:18,482 --> 00:32:20,896
[Russian anthem continues]

577
00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:42,026
[Woman] Are you strong enough
to take on putin, prime minister?

578
00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:47,148
[Theresa may] Mr. Speaker, this
was not just an act of attempted murder

579
00:32:47,172 --> 00:32:52,206
in Salisbury, it is an affront to the
prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.

580
00:32:52,241 --> 00:32:56,448
The United Kingdom will now
expel 23 Russian diplomats

581
00:32:56,482 --> 00:32:58,620
- [audience murmurs]
- Who have been identified

582
00:32:58,655 --> 00:33:01,206
as undeclared
intelligence officers.

583
00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:06,551
Nerve agents are a
weapon of mass destruction.

584
00:33:08,517 --> 00:33:10,241
Having been chucked
in the deep end,

585
00:33:10,275 --> 00:33:17,448
and I had to learn on the job how
these evil toxic substances work.

586
00:33:17,482 --> 00:33:20,034
You know, that's why I didn't
sleep much that first week

587
00:33:20,068 --> 00:33:24,275
because every sinew
was straining for that.

588
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:28,448
Given it was such an evil act
we felt like we wanted to beat it.

589
00:33:29,896 --> 00:33:33,034
[Nick Bailey] My room in
intensive care became my world.

590
00:33:33,068 --> 00:33:35,665
The doctors and the nurses, the
consultants would come in to see me

591
00:33:35,689 --> 00:33:41,482
in completely, like,
full suits, masks, visors,

592
00:33:41,517 --> 00:33:43,344
double, triple gloves.

593
00:33:43,379 --> 00:33:45,034
You know, they have
to protect themselves,

594
00:33:45,068 --> 00:33:48,172
but that kind of fueled
my fear of the unknown.

595
00:33:48,206 --> 00:33:53,517
It fueled my terror. I've got no
idea how this is gonna play out.

596
00:33:53,551 --> 00:33:58,379
I thought that I was gonna be
locked up in a mental institute.

597
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:05,140
[Amber rudd] Very dramatic, it
felt to me, visiting the hospital.

598
00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:10,379
I was taken up to see
detective sergeant Nick Bailey.

599
00:34:10,413 --> 00:34:15,172
I've never seen so many
wires going into a man's body.

600
00:34:15,206 --> 00:34:18,034
It was a shock just to
see him in that state.

601
00:34:18,068 --> 00:34:22,103
I was conscious throughout
my time in hospital,

602
00:34:22,137 --> 00:34:24,551
whereas Sergei
and yulia weren't.

603
00:34:24,586 --> 00:34:26,413
They were worse
because they had, probably,

604
00:34:26,448 --> 00:34:29,206
had a stronger
hit of it than I did,

605
00:34:29,241 --> 00:34:31,827
and as such I didn't
fall unconscious

606
00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:34,482
or wasn't needed
to put into a coma.

607
00:34:34,517 --> 00:34:36,793
[Rudd] The consultant
who was in charge

608
00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:40,310
was on the verge of
tears as I spoke to him.

609
00:34:40,344 --> 00:34:42,275
[Machines beeping]

610
00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:51,655
I went into intensive
care as a profession,

611
00:34:51,689 --> 00:34:55,896
partly because my dad was
critically ill when I was a kid.

612
00:34:56,931 --> 00:34:58,310
And...

613
00:34:59,172 --> 00:35:02,413
The icu guys saved his life.

614
00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:06,206
And so, [voice shaking] Yeah, that's
what I wanted to do for my patients

615
00:35:06,241 --> 00:35:08,034
was to save their lives.

616
00:35:10,034 --> 00:35:14,758
- [Siren wailing] - [Rudd] I realized
that Nick Bailey was going to live

617
00:35:14,793 --> 00:35:19,758
because the consultant
slept hardly at all in days,

618
00:35:19,793 --> 00:35:23,827
trying to keep his patients
alive and he was winning.

619
00:35:25,724 --> 00:35:31,793
There were so, so many people,
doctors, nurses, consultants

620
00:35:31,827 --> 00:35:34,793
that were involved
in looking after me.

621
00:35:34,827 --> 00:35:37,620
Undoubtedly, they saved my life.

622
00:35:37,655 --> 00:35:40,068
James haslam was
one of those people

623
00:35:40,103 --> 00:35:41,965
and he's got a tiny
little place in my heart

624
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,655
because he's part of that
horrific ordeal in hospital,

625
00:35:46,689 --> 00:35:48,931
and I'm incredibly grateful.

626
00:35:48,965 --> 00:35:53,862
At heart, I'm an emotional
englishman and I...

627
00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:57,241
[Scoffs] Emotions are just
below the surface for me.

628
00:35:57,275 --> 00:36:04,241
I've looked after all kinds
of dying, sick patients and...

629
00:36:05,689 --> 00:36:10,724
I think every patient
who survives is...

630
00:36:10,758 --> 00:36:14,206
Wonderful, and that's
why we do the job.

631
00:36:14,241 --> 00:36:16,448
I do care deeply about patients.

632
00:36:18,103 --> 00:36:21,482
With all the press around,
we had to sneak Nick out

633
00:36:21,517 --> 00:36:22,797
of the backdoor of the hospital.

634
00:36:29,068 --> 00:36:32,551
[Woman] Sergeant Nick Bailey's condition
has now improved, and he was discharged

635
00:36:32,586 --> 00:36:35,241
from Salisbury district
hospital this afternoon.

636
00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:39,689
I personally want to wish
Nick and his family well,

637
00:36:39,724 --> 00:36:42,379
and I know that the staff
right across the hospital

638
00:36:42,413 --> 00:36:44,896
will want me to share
their very best wishes.

639
00:36:44,931 --> 00:36:49,206
I also want to update you on
the condition of Sergei skripal.

640
00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:52,344
He's responding well to
treatment, improving rapidly,

641
00:36:52,379 --> 00:36:55,413
and is no longer in
a critical condition.

642
00:36:55,448 --> 00:36:58,275
[Dr. Haslam] My sickest
patients, two Russian nationals,

643
00:36:58,310 --> 00:37:00,620
had dramatically turned a corner

644
00:37:00,655 --> 00:37:04,413
and had stabilized physiologically,
which was a huge relief.

645
00:37:04,448 --> 00:37:07,137
[Machines beeping]

646
00:37:07,172 --> 00:37:09,931
[Lorna wilkinson] And, as
the skripals started to wake up,

647
00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:14,724
they both made quick
strides in their recovery.

648
00:37:14,758 --> 00:37:18,137
It actually was then
shorter than we expected

649
00:37:18,172 --> 00:37:22,448
from that time to them
actually gaining consciousness,

650
00:37:22,482 --> 00:37:25,413
being awake, being
able to converse with us.

651
00:37:25,448 --> 00:37:30,068
But, obviously, very quickly
the police got involved.

652
00:37:30,103 --> 00:37:32,172
This was part of a
major investigation.

653
00:37:33,655 --> 00:37:38,068
This had so much complexity
to it. It had the political angle,

654
00:37:38,103 --> 00:37:41,379
it had the world of espionage,

655
00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:46,241
and took us to
the edge of a world

656
00:37:46,275 --> 00:37:49,344
that most of us don't
even know exists.

657
00:37:49,379 --> 00:37:53,586
We think it's the stuff
ofjames bond films.

658
00:37:55,482 --> 00:38:00,103
The Russians like
using exotic methods

659
00:38:00,137 --> 00:38:04,310
to take out people who
they don't approve of.

660
00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:07,344
You know, the stabbing,
the spraying or whatever.

661
00:38:07,379 --> 00:38:12,586
You know, litvinenko, polonium-210,
a drop being put in his tea.

662
00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:16,689
You let mother Russia down and
mother Russia will take you down.

663
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,206
[Speaking Russian]

664
00:38:26,551 --> 00:38:31,482
A case like this is enormously
complex, and just one strand of that

665
00:38:31,517 --> 00:38:35,896
was Sergei and yulia
skripal's movements

666
00:38:35,931 --> 00:38:39,793
on the day the poisons
took a hold on them.

667
00:38:39,827 --> 00:38:42,724
In terms of the investigation
tracking down ground zero,

668
00:38:42,758 --> 00:38:45,413
where was novichok administered?

669
00:38:46,448 --> 00:38:48,655
The cctv was giving
us the picture of

670
00:38:48,689 --> 00:38:51,137
the movement of the
skripals during that day.

671
00:38:59,586 --> 00:39:03,862
[Ebru ozturk] Mr. Skripal was
one of my favorite customers.

672
00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,000
He made me always smile.

673
00:39:08,275 --> 00:39:14,448
He's very kind, very
happy, cheerful, never rush.

674
00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:17,448
He's very slow,
calm, you know, the...

675
00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:21,275
And he use, "no problem."

676
00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:24,172
He's always used
this, "no problem."

677
00:39:24,206 --> 00:39:26,827
This phrases always
remind me of him.

678
00:39:26,862 --> 00:39:30,620
He's like a proper, proper
grandfather, you know?

679
00:39:32,172 --> 00:39:36,344
Last time Mr. Skripal
came to my shop,

680
00:39:36,379 --> 00:39:39,448
he mentioned the daughter
is coming to see him

681
00:39:39,482 --> 00:39:41,413
and they're going to
spend time together

682
00:39:41,448 --> 00:39:44,448
which make him very happy.

683
00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:46,310
You know, he was excited.

684
00:39:50,068 --> 00:39:52,931
That was the last
time I saw him.

685
00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:02,551
Yulia has recently
arrived from Russia,

686
00:40:02,586 --> 00:40:05,517
looking forward to a
holiday with her dad.

687
00:40:05,551 --> 00:40:08,172
We know that one of the first
things she did when she got to the UK

688
00:40:08,206 --> 00:40:12,517
was go and visit her mom's
grave, which they had done together.

689
00:40:13,793 --> 00:40:15,413
We know they've been into a pub.

690
00:40:15,448 --> 00:40:17,389
[Paul mills] We know they've
then been to a restaurant

691
00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:18,862
and then they've become unwell.

692
00:40:18,896 --> 00:40:20,655
And we've got nine
different scenes

693
00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:23,275
that are up and
running in Salisbury.

694
00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:26,068
We learned more and
more, and what was very clear

695
00:40:26,103 --> 00:40:27,758
that everybody
that had become ill

696
00:40:27,793 --> 00:40:30,724
had been directly in contact with
the front door of Sergei's house.

697
00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:41,172
[Nick] A couple of weeks
after leaving hospital

698
00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:43,931
I was shocked to learn that
it was on the door handle.

699
00:40:45,103 --> 00:40:46,562
I was the first person
through the door

700
00:40:46,586 --> 00:40:48,586
after they had become poisoned,

701
00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:55,310
and so it got onto my glove, and somehow
got onto my skin, and into my blood system.

702
00:40:55,344 --> 00:40:59,275
[Tracy daszkiewicz] That door was
removed, and at that point we then knew

703
00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:01,965
that the science that we'd
use to track his movements

704
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,172
had been the right approach.

705
00:41:04,206 --> 00:41:07,965
[Nick] Such a brazen
attempt on someone's life,

706
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,758
and anybody could have
touched that door handle.

707
00:41:10,793 --> 00:41:11,793
It angered me.

708
00:41:13,689 --> 00:41:16,068
Novichok, without
a doubt, is a killer.

709
00:41:16,103 --> 00:41:20,551
Let's be clear, it's a
military-grade chemical weapon.

710
00:41:20,586 --> 00:41:23,758
Those that came to
target Mr. Skripal and yulia

711
00:41:23,793 --> 00:41:25,448
were intending to kill them.

712
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,827
[Speaking Russian]

713
00:41:35,793 --> 00:41:39,448
[Rebecca Hudson] Russian
disinformation was intensifying.

714
00:41:39,482 --> 00:41:43,517
There were dozens of wild
theories about what I had done

715
00:41:43,551 --> 00:41:45,172
or what I hadn't done.

716
00:41:45,206 --> 00:41:49,758
I was accused of having burner
phones buried in my back garden

717
00:41:49,793 --> 00:41:56,793
that I would dig up at night to contact all
sorts of people to help plan these attacks.

718
00:41:56,827 --> 00:41:59,241
[Nick] At one point, I was
accused of being the assassin.

719
00:41:59,275 --> 00:42:03,517
I was accused of
being Sergei's handler.

720
00:42:03,551 --> 00:42:05,896
I was accused of
working for MI6.

721
00:42:05,931 --> 00:42:12,689
The most ridiculous of those, I think,
was that I had stolen the skripal's cat.

722
00:42:12,724 --> 00:42:14,344
Obviously, none of this true.

723
00:42:16,965 --> 00:42:21,241
One of the lines that was
coming out in Russian reporting

724
00:42:21,275 --> 00:42:24,172
was that Sergei and yulia
skripal were being, almost,

725
00:42:24,206 --> 00:42:26,827
held against their
will in the hospital

726
00:42:26,862 --> 00:42:29,862
and not being allowed to talk
to relatives or see relatives.

727
00:42:29,896 --> 00:42:31,586
We want to see the evidence.

728
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:35,413
We want to have access
to Russian nationals.

729
00:42:35,448 --> 00:42:36,896
We are denied.

730
00:42:36,931 --> 00:42:40,655
And we want to make
our own investigation,

731
00:42:40,689 --> 00:42:42,896
and we want to understand
what happened there.

732
00:42:42,931 --> 00:42:45,655
The Russians suggested
that the skripals had been

733
00:42:45,689 --> 00:42:49,758
abducted by UK
authorities in some form,

734
00:42:49,793 --> 00:42:51,689
which, obviously, was
completely ridiculous

735
00:42:51,724 --> 00:42:54,586
but it was part of their
disinformation campaign.

736
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:58,206
[Speaking Russian]

737
00:43:01,310 --> 00:43:05,586
There were people even
within the city, a minority,

738
00:43:05,620 --> 00:43:11,103
but who started to question, "is
this real? This hadn't happened.

739
00:43:11,137 --> 00:43:16,310
These patients weren't here. Sergei
didn't survive. He couldn't have survived.

740
00:43:17,275 --> 00:43:18,551
This was all fake."

741
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,517
He absolutely did survive,
the same as yulia survived

742
00:43:27,379 --> 00:43:29,000
so yeah, they're wrong.

743
00:43:30,068 --> 00:43:32,413
[Speaking Russian]

744
00:43:46,793 --> 00:43:49,344
[Speaking Russian]

745
00:44:03,206 --> 00:44:05,482
[Lorna] Yulia had survived.

746
00:44:05,517 --> 00:44:09,310
We hadn't thought anybody
would survive novichok poisoning.

747
00:44:09,344 --> 00:44:12,172
I think that, collectively,

748
00:44:12,206 --> 00:44:16,896
there was almost a sadness
at saying goodbye to her

749
00:44:16,931 --> 00:44:19,862
because she was also
saying goodbye to somebody

750
00:44:19,896 --> 00:44:24,241
who you knew would get
swallowed up into a secret world.

751
00:44:24,275 --> 00:44:28,413
We all knew that her life
would be changed forever.

752
00:44:30,137 --> 00:44:35,034
It was Sergei's choice to be a
professional spy and he answers for that.

753
00:44:35,068 --> 00:44:39,655
But then, suddenly, you know, it affects
other people who never signed up for that.

754
00:44:39,689 --> 00:44:43,137
Did his daughter sign
up for that? No, she didn't.

755
00:44:43,896 --> 00:44:46,931
[Speaking Russian]

756
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:53,620
[Duncan Murray] Sergei
had been really sick.

757
00:44:53,655 --> 00:44:56,862
In extraordinary circumstances
someone had tried to kill him.

758
00:44:56,896 --> 00:44:58,689
My name's Duncan Murray,

759
00:44:58,724 --> 00:45:03,034
and I'm a consultant anesthetist
and intensive care specialist.

760
00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:07,413
I happened to be the
attending consultant

761
00:45:07,448 --> 00:45:11,793
at the time that he was
able to breathe unassisted.

762
00:45:11,827 --> 00:45:15,000
He didn't die when he
was in Salisbury hospital.

763
00:45:15,034 --> 00:45:18,724
I don't know what's happened
beyond that, but, yeah.

764
00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:21,620
The last time I saw him
[Laughing] he was alive,

765
00:45:21,655 --> 00:45:23,310
and I've got no
reason to believe that

766
00:45:23,344 --> 00:45:25,103
he didn't leave
the hospital alive.

767
00:45:25,137 --> 00:45:26,724
Yeah.

768
00:45:28,172 --> 00:45:30,344
[Dr. Haslam] On
discharging our last patient

769
00:45:30,379 --> 00:45:33,241
there was a real sense of
relief, of accomplishment.

770
00:45:33,275 --> 00:45:35,137
Things started to
return to normal.

771
00:45:35,172 --> 00:45:38,689
All the fanfare of the press
and everything had gone.

772
00:45:38,724 --> 00:45:41,275
- [Bells chiming]
- In the back of our minds

773
00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:45,517
there was a sense that the
police hadn't found the novichok,

774
00:45:45,551 --> 00:45:47,827
and so there was
a niggling feeling.

775
00:45:47,862 --> 00:45:51,241
Could it still be out there?
Do we need to be worried?

776
00:45:51,275 --> 00:45:56,620
When a story involves
spies and exiles,

777
00:45:56,655 --> 00:46:00,103
the public will want to know, "well, what
really went on? What's under the surface?"

778
00:46:01,344 --> 00:46:03,172
In terms of the investigation,

779
00:46:03,206 --> 00:46:08,068
we're very interested in finding
the team behind this, the suspects.

780
00:46:08,103 --> 00:46:12,413
[Paul] Slowly but surely, the counterterrorism
police were able to narrow down

781
00:46:12,448 --> 00:46:16,000
with the cctv imaging, and
then have that Eureka moment.

782
00:46:20,931 --> 00:46:25,689
We're able to see our two
suspects arriving at the train station.

783
00:46:25,724 --> 00:46:28,137
Well, if they're only in Salisbury
for a short period of time,

784
00:46:28,172 --> 00:46:31,379
and then we'd know that they
go back to London after the attack,

785
00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:36,586
and certainly by early evening
they're on a flight back to Russia.

786
00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:40,551
Counterterrorism police needed
to identify those two suspects.

787
00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:44,931
[Sir Mark rowley] It was quite
possible that the offenders

788
00:46:44,965 --> 00:46:47,724
may have taken the
exact novichok agent,

789
00:46:47,758 --> 00:46:51,344
that was used to attempt to
kill Sergei skripal, with them.

790
00:46:51,379 --> 00:46:53,872
They may have destroyed it in a
completely different part of the country,

791
00:46:53,896 --> 00:46:55,862
but it stayed high
on our list of priorities

792
00:46:55,896 --> 00:46:58,448
because public safety
was the number one issue.

793
00:46:58,482 --> 00:47:01,448
[Paul] It's back to the
needle in the haystack.

794
00:47:01,482 --> 00:47:03,068
The novichok
getting where that was

795
00:47:03,103 --> 00:47:07,482
is still a major, major
question Mark for us.

796
00:47:07,517 --> 00:47:12,931
We had gone through everything in
terms of checking and checking again.

797
00:47:12,965 --> 00:47:16,862
I felt Salisbury was
safe. I wasn't in any doubt.

798
00:47:19,793 --> 00:47:20,872
[Radio reporter] First of all,

799
00:47:20,896 --> 00:47:22,586
spire fm news at three o'clock.

800
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:24,665
[Radio reporter 2] Prince Charles
and the duchess of cornwall

801
00:47:24,689 --> 00:47:29,551
have visited Salisbury to help drum
up trade after the nerve agent attack.

802
00:47:29,586 --> 00:47:33,965
[Rebecca] By June, we
were just returning to normality

803
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,689
and not writing about Russians
or nerve agents in every paper.

804
00:47:41,344 --> 00:47:43,586
The big story at the
Salisbury journal at the time

805
00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,931
was people coming from all over
the country, or from all over the world,

806
00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:51,172
to celebrate the summer
solstice at stonehenge.

807
00:47:51,206 --> 00:47:54,896
- Not many cities have a druid community.
- [Man] Diva.

808
00:47:54,931 --> 00:48:00,620
-[All] Diva.
-[Man] ♪ diva, diva ♪

809
00:48:00,655 --> 00:48:04,689
The stonehenge solstice that
happens in June every year

810
00:48:04,724 --> 00:48:08,034
is our biggest
policing operation.

811
00:48:08,068 --> 00:48:11,275
Over 10,000 people. You're
there as the sun comes up

812
00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:14,137
and it's a wonderful
place to be.

813
00:48:14,172 --> 00:48:15,872
[Arthur pendragon] And if
you grew up around here,

814
00:48:15,896 --> 00:48:20,275
Salisbury and stonehenge are
part and parcel of the same thing

815
00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:21,655
and it's in your DNA.

816
00:48:22,655 --> 00:48:24,482
Solstice 2018,

817
00:48:24,517 --> 00:48:29,103
this was the first ceremony
we'd had here after the poisoning.

818
00:48:29,137 --> 00:48:33,793
We said some prayers
for all those affected.

819
00:48:33,827 --> 00:48:36,965
This is rural wiltshire.
Everybody knows everybody.

820
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,172
Salisbury is a small community and
we jokingly refer to it as smallsbury,

821
00:48:41,206 --> 00:48:44,793
so everybody knew someone
who was touched by it.

822
00:48:47,827 --> 00:48:51,413
[Rebecca] We had been told
repeatedly that Salisbury was safe

823
00:48:51,448 --> 00:48:56,551
and that the nerve agent
areas had all been identified.

824
00:48:57,413 --> 00:48:58,413
And then... [sighs]

825
00:48:59,482 --> 00:49:01,758
We had heard that there had been

826
00:49:02,517 --> 00:49:04,310
an unexplained incident.

827
00:49:04,344 --> 00:49:10,034
There were a lot of parallels with
what had happened back in march.

828
00:49:10,068 --> 00:49:12,010
[Reporter] A major incident's
been declared in amesbury,

829
00:49:12,034 --> 00:49:14,206
where police think a man
and a woman left critically ill

830
00:49:14,241 --> 00:49:16,896
may have been exposed
to an unknown substance.

831
00:49:16,931 --> 00:49:18,931
[Rebecca] I didn't
recognize Charlie rowley,

832
00:49:18,965 --> 00:49:21,517
but Charlie had been
arrested a few times

833
00:49:21,551 --> 00:49:23,758
and the journal
had reported on that.

834
00:49:25,896 --> 00:49:30,758
[Charlie] I found a novichok
bottle a week after my girlfriend,

835
00:49:30,793 --> 00:49:33,206
dawn, done the summer solstice.

836
00:49:33,241 --> 00:49:37,724
Dawn, basically, grew up in
the closest village to stonehenge.

837
00:49:39,827 --> 00:49:44,172
My name is Charlie rowley. I went
through a state of homelessness.

838
00:49:45,689 --> 00:49:47,344
But it, you know,
and it got better.

839
00:49:47,379 --> 00:49:50,827
You know, and I got me own
place. It was like a dream come true.

840
00:49:52,034 --> 00:49:55,310
I had a lovely, lovely
girlfriend, dawn.

841
00:49:55,344 --> 00:50:00,827
And the whole thing of getting
a new flat was overwhelming.

842
00:50:00,862 --> 00:50:04,379
You know, it blew me socks off.

843
00:50:04,413 --> 00:50:08,448
I knew that there was gonna be
sunshine at the end of the cloud.

844
00:50:08,482 --> 00:50:10,458
[Reporter] The pair in their
forties were found unconscious

845
00:50:10,482 --> 00:50:13,517
at a property in muggleton
road on Saturday evening.

846
00:50:13,551 --> 00:50:19,206
Charlie got a brand new flat and he
invited dawn to come and live with him.

847
00:50:19,241 --> 00:50:22,448
And the pair of 'em were like,
"wow, it's the perfect family home.

848
00:50:22,482 --> 00:50:24,344
It's a brand new fresh start."

849
00:50:25,206 --> 00:50:27,482
A dream home
for the pair of them.

850
00:50:27,517 --> 00:50:32,448
And so, they set about building
their little love nest up together.

851
00:50:36,344 --> 00:50:39,862
[Charlie] I furnished my flat with
stuff that had been thrown away,

852
00:50:39,896 --> 00:50:46,000
and my past time was going
around various charity shop bins

853
00:50:46,034 --> 00:50:51,275
and get electrical equipment,
or kitchenware and stuff.

854
00:50:52,137 --> 00:50:55,931
Just digging in deep, really.

855
00:50:55,965 --> 00:51:00,344
You could find, like, all sorts
of things, like gold necklaces,

856
00:51:00,379 --> 00:51:03,068
to silver, to earings
and all sorts.

857
00:51:03,103 --> 00:51:05,344
And it would all
be proper and gold.

858
00:51:05,379 --> 00:51:08,689
And I would have treasures
to take back to dawn.

859
00:51:08,724 --> 00:51:11,344
She would look forward
to seeing me the next day

860
00:51:11,379 --> 00:51:13,655
to see what I'd
pull out of my sack.

861
00:51:13,689 --> 00:51:17,896
One person's rubbish is
another man's gold as they say.

862
00:51:21,862 --> 00:51:26,206
[Charlie] But I remember going
to the bin and going through it,

863
00:51:26,241 --> 00:51:31,620
and I found a
perfume box for dawn.

864
00:51:31,655 --> 00:51:33,275
I thought, "hey,
winner, winner."

865
00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:38,172
And it was all in plastic, all
sealed, and it looked expensive.

866
00:51:38,206 --> 00:51:39,793
So I put it in me pocket.

867
00:51:39,827 --> 00:51:41,896
He loves little treasures
that he finds, but then,

868
00:51:41,931 --> 00:51:44,034
obviously, he come
across this bottle

869
00:51:44,068 --> 00:51:45,689
which he thought
was a good treasure,

870
00:51:45,724 --> 00:51:47,965
a bottle of perfume.

871
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,010
He ended up doing something
the police didn't achieve

872
00:51:50,034 --> 00:51:51,862
by finding the novichok bottle.

873
00:51:55,413 --> 00:51:57,275
I mean, we think there
was about a a quarter,

874
00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:58,424
an eighth of a cup of novichok.

875
00:51:58,448 --> 00:52:01,172
If you administered
that correctly

876
00:52:01,206 --> 00:52:04,379
it could have killed tens
of thousands of people.

877
00:52:06,137 --> 00:52:08,586
This wasn't a standard
Nina ricci bottle.

878
00:52:08,620 --> 00:52:13,931
This had been manufactured
so that the applicator was key.

879
00:52:13,965 --> 00:52:18,448
Finding the perfume bottle was the
most important piece of the puzzle.

880
00:52:23,275 --> 00:52:25,551
[Charlie] It was
Saturday, the 30th of June.

881
00:52:25,586 --> 00:52:30,827
I gave the bottle of perfume
to my girlfriend, dawn.

882
00:52:30,862 --> 00:52:33,620
She said, "oh, that's a good
one. That's a good make."

883
00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:36,620
And I thought I'd done
well then, you know?

884
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:45,413
So, it was in a cardboard box
in a heat sealed kind of package.

885
00:52:45,448 --> 00:52:47,241
It was, like,
molded to the bottle

886
00:52:47,275 --> 00:52:52,310
so I had to use a sharp
kitchen knife to cut it open.

887
00:52:52,344 --> 00:52:56,724
I then put the top nozzle
on to the glass bottle

888
00:52:56,758 --> 00:52:58,758
and covered me
hands in the spray.

889
00:52:59,931 --> 00:53:05,000
I washed it off and
then gave it to dawn.

890
00:53:05,034 --> 00:53:09,172
And she was quite happy
and sprayed it on herself.

891
00:53:09,206 --> 00:53:13,448
She had one squirt on her wrists,
like that, and rubbed them together.

892
00:53:15,862 --> 00:53:18,655
Yeah, one squirt on the
wrists and rubbed them.

893
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:32,793
I carry a hell of a lot of guilt

894
00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:37,172
because I gave that...
Novichok to my girlfriend.

895
00:53:39,172 --> 00:53:41,551
I knew that she
cared for me and stuff,

896
00:53:41,586 --> 00:53:45,586
and she said that she wanted a
sapphire ring for an engagement ring,

897
00:53:45,620 --> 00:53:49,862
but she would quite happily
settle for a haribo ring,

898
00:53:49,896 --> 00:53:51,241
and that said it all, really.

899
00:53:51,896 --> 00:53:52,896
Yeah.

900
00:53:54,689 --> 00:54:00,655
I went into the bathroom
and she was in a bad way.

901
00:54:00,689 --> 00:54:06,413
Like, staring at nothing and foaming
at the mouth. So I called her name.

902
00:54:06,448 --> 00:54:10,620
Um...

903
00:54:10,655 --> 00:54:15,655
I shook her and then realized
that I had got no response.

904
00:54:15,689 --> 00:54:19,241
Dawn had given up
breathing for herself.

905
00:54:40,413 --> 00:54:42,689
[Siren wailing]

906
00:54:45,793 --> 00:54:50,827
I seen an ambulance outside Charlie's
house, and then I see getting dawn

907
00:54:50,862 --> 00:54:54,310
taken out on a stretcher, and...

908
00:54:54,344 --> 00:54:58,068
Yeah, it wasn't a nice sight. She
didn't look very well at all there,

909
00:54:58,103 --> 00:55:00,551
and it was quite
upsetting to see that.

910
00:55:04,931 --> 00:55:07,793
[Sam Hobson] We'd gone back
to the flat and Charlie was in bits,

911
00:55:07,827 --> 00:55:10,103
like, emotional wreck, crying,

912
00:55:10,137 --> 00:55:13,758
and then, suddenly, he started
acting all weird and paranoid.

913
00:55:13,793 --> 00:55:15,620
And then he just started
to try to attack me.

914
00:55:15,655 --> 00:55:17,241
I had him by the neck.

915
00:55:17,275 --> 00:55:20,586
I was trying to strangle him because
I thought he'd kill me, try to kill me,

916
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:22,379
and I thought he'd
done the same to dawn.

917
00:55:22,413 --> 00:55:23,700
I said, "Charlie,
what are you doing?

918
00:55:23,724 --> 00:55:25,493
I'm your friend and I'm
not going to leave you,

919
00:55:25,517 --> 00:55:27,034
even though you're attacking me.

920
00:55:27,068 --> 00:55:29,044
I'm gonna stay with you
because it's the right thing to do,

921
00:55:29,068 --> 00:55:30,655
because this isn't you."

922
00:55:33,344 --> 00:55:38,517
But that's when he started showing
symptoms of frothing at the mouth,

923
00:55:38,551 --> 00:55:43,758
sweating loads, and his eyes going
glazed and red and milky colored.

924
00:55:43,793 --> 00:55:50,275
[Charlie] Oh, well, it's just like
something out of a horror movie kind of,

925
00:55:50,310 --> 00:55:51,551
or a zombie film.

926
00:55:51,586 --> 00:55:53,517
I was acting really weird.

927
00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:55,758
Yeah.

928
00:55:56,620 --> 00:55:57,689
Yeah.

929
00:55:57,724 --> 00:55:59,493
Then he started rocking
backwards and forwards

930
00:55:59,517 --> 00:56:02,310
and muttering some
weird tongue language.

931
00:56:02,344 --> 00:56:06,344
I don't know what it was but I
couldn't get any sense out of him at all.

932
00:56:06,379 --> 00:56:08,838
So, that's when I thought there's
something definitely wrong here.

933
00:56:08,862 --> 00:56:10,310
So I had to call 999.

934
00:56:12,034 --> 00:56:13,896
[Charlie] He'd done
the right thing.[Chuckles]

935
00:56:13,931 --> 00:56:15,851
He'd done the right thing
'cause I'd be dead now.

936
00:56:20,965 --> 00:56:23,448
[Ambulance wailing]

937
00:56:24,862 --> 00:56:26,689
[Dr. Haslam] The
first I heard about it,

938
00:56:26,724 --> 00:56:30,724
one of my colleagues had
admitted two patients in sequence

939
00:56:30,758 --> 00:56:36,000
who had unusual... An
unusual presentation.

940
00:56:36,034 --> 00:56:38,448
And again, alarm
bells were ringing.

941
00:56:38,482 --> 00:56:40,448
Could this be similar to before?

942
00:56:40,482 --> 00:56:42,931
It can't be, can it?

943
00:56:42,965 --> 00:56:46,206
As we confirmed in the
early hours of this morning,

944
00:56:46,241 --> 00:56:50,620
wiltshire police and partners
have declared a major incident

945
00:56:50,655 --> 00:56:55,517
after two people were hospitalized
following their potential exposure

946
00:56:55,551 --> 00:56:57,000
to an unknown substance.

947
00:56:57,586 --> 00:56:58,965
I was so shocked.

948
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,862
I was so shocked when actually
one of my special advisors,

949
00:57:02,896 --> 00:57:04,551
when I'd been home secretary,

950
00:57:04,586 --> 00:57:06,931
texted me and said,
"it's happening again."

951
00:57:08,103 --> 00:57:09,103
Oh, god.

952
00:57:11,034 --> 00:57:13,862
[Rebecca] I was angry
that the message had been

953
00:57:13,896 --> 00:57:16,862
that Salisbury was
completely safe for so long.

954
00:57:18,793 --> 00:57:20,827
If Salisbury had
been safe then...

955
00:57:21,862 --> 00:57:24,034
The second incident
wouldn't have happened.

956
00:57:25,793 --> 00:57:28,586
You speak to the police and
obviously they can't comment.

957
00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:31,586
And all you want to
know is are you safe?

958
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:32,793
Do you have to do anything?

959
00:57:32,827 --> 00:57:34,379
Is your family gonna be safe?

960
00:57:34,413 --> 00:57:37,586
Is there going to be
a further escalation?

961
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:40,620
[Mills] A real challenge for
us with the poisoning of Charlie

962
00:57:40,655 --> 00:57:43,172
was to establish
where the novichok was

963
00:57:43,206 --> 00:57:46,724
between incident number
one and incident number two.

964
00:57:46,758 --> 00:57:50,344
Where was that novichok
for that three month period?

965
00:57:50,379 --> 00:57:54,310
[Rowley] The applicator
had been left in Salisbury,

966
00:57:54,344 --> 00:57:58,689
and clearly the
police hadn't found it.

967
00:57:58,724 --> 00:58:01,113
And, of course, you'll always look
back on things like that and think,

968
00:58:01,137 --> 00:58:05,827
is there something on my watch
we could have done differently?

969
00:58:05,862 --> 00:58:09,517
But in the absence of any clues
for where they'd abandoned it,

970
00:58:09,551 --> 00:58:12,103
I'm just not sure how
we could have got there.

971
00:58:12,137 --> 00:58:13,862
[Reporter 1] Spy
affair news at 6:00.

972
00:58:13,896 --> 00:58:16,700
[Reporter 2] Counter terror police
aren't ruling out more people falling ill

973
00:58:16,724 --> 00:58:18,931
as a result of the
Salisbury spy poisoning.

974
00:58:18,965 --> 00:58:22,931
Charlie rowley and dawn sturgess
remain in a critical condition.

975
00:58:22,965 --> 00:58:24,620
[Rebecca] Salisbury's
not a big place.

976
00:58:24,655 --> 00:58:27,310
You recognize and
know a lot of people.

977
00:58:27,344 --> 00:58:29,965
Dawn was someone
who I'd often walked past

978
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,896
or seen on my way
to and from work

979
00:58:32,931 --> 00:58:35,103
who was now in
hospital being treated

980
00:58:35,137 --> 00:58:37,172
for a nerve agent attack.

981
00:58:38,275 --> 00:58:41,206
Their photographs were
passed around the tables,

982
00:58:41,241 --> 00:58:42,976
and I realized the dawn
that we're talking about

983
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,689
I'd spent some time with.

984
00:58:46,931 --> 00:58:50,310
So I felt devastated

985
00:58:50,344 --> 00:58:51,862
that she was so ill.

986
00:58:52,931 --> 00:58:54,655
I spontaneously cried.

987
00:58:55,931 --> 00:58:57,689
And, of course, she
died later that day.

988
00:59:03,172 --> 00:59:05,689
Someone died and it was
a mom with three children.

989
00:59:06,896 --> 00:59:08,379
And that is harrowing.

990
00:59:11,310 --> 00:59:13,482
She was always bright and
breezy up in the morning.

991
00:59:13,517 --> 00:59:14,655
She was a morning girl.

992
00:59:14,689 --> 00:59:17,068
Yeah, I think her name
fitted her down to a t.

993
00:59:17,103 --> 00:59:22,241
Yeah, she was a bright flame of light,
love, and laughter in a little shell,

994
00:59:22,275 --> 00:59:24,034
and she had so
much love to give.

995
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,689
She liked glittery
objects [Chuckling]

996
00:59:27,724 --> 00:59:29,931
And took a chance
on a perfume bottle.

997
00:59:30,517 --> 00:59:32,068
So...

998
00:59:32,103 --> 00:59:34,482
Yeah, real bright soul
that I'm gonna miss daily.

999
00:59:37,241 --> 00:59:40,517
I think dawn dying was a real...

1000
00:59:40,551 --> 00:59:42,424
It was a heartbreaking
moment for the whole team.

1001
00:59:42,448 --> 00:59:45,689
Any patient who dies
under our care affects us.

1002
00:59:51,068 --> 00:59:53,206
[Neil basu] It is both
shocking and utterly appalling

1003
00:59:53,241 --> 00:59:57,862
that a British citizen has died having
been exposed to a novichok nerve agent.

1004
00:59:58,379 --> 01:00:00,034
But make no mistake.

1005
01:00:00,068 --> 01:00:04,931
We are determined to find out how
dawn and her partner Charlie rowley

1006
01:00:04,965 --> 01:00:07,931
came into contact with
such a deadly substance.

1007
01:00:07,965 --> 01:00:10,586
The police liaison officers

1008
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,586
got hold of me to confirm
that it was novichok.

1009
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:19,206
They organized for me to go
to the hospital to visit Charlie.

1010
01:00:20,862 --> 01:00:23,379
He had so many
machines around him,

1011
01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:25,413
and it was...

1012
01:00:26,103 --> 01:00:28,241
It was my brother.

1013
01:00:28,275 --> 01:00:30,482
It was heartbreaking to see it.

1014
01:00:31,379 --> 01:00:33,172
It really was.

1015
01:00:33,206 --> 01:00:35,931
I thought that was the
last time I'm gonna see him.

1016
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,793
[Charlie] When I came
round out of my coma,

1017
01:00:49,827 --> 01:00:54,137
the police said about a
perfume bottle that they'd found,

1018
01:00:54,172 --> 01:00:57,551
and they said it contained
the nerve agent novichok.

1019
01:00:58,413 --> 01:01:01,379
I was like, "no, no.
It was perfume."

1020
01:01:01,413 --> 01:01:04,413
When he woke up and
came off the ventilator,

1021
01:01:04,448 --> 01:01:07,896
we had to explain to
him what had happened.

1022
01:01:07,931 --> 01:01:14,931
And it fell to me to be the one
to tell Charlie that dawn had died.

1023
01:01:14,965 --> 01:01:17,068
Yeah, I still to this day...

1024
01:01:17,103 --> 01:01:18,482
You know, it chokes me.

1025
01:01:19,551 --> 01:01:21,344
Yeah, it's my girlfriend I lost.

1026
01:01:21,379 --> 01:01:22,689
My partner.

1027
01:01:22,724 --> 01:01:23,965
My soul mate.

1028
01:01:25,413 --> 01:01:26,724
Mmm.

1029
01:01:32,793 --> 01:01:34,551
[Members of
parliament] Hear, hear.

1030
01:01:34,586 --> 01:01:36,586
[Theresa may] With
permission Mr. Speaker,

1031
01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:41,275
I would like to update the house on the
investigation into the attempted murder

1032
01:01:41,310 --> 01:01:43,827
of Sergei and yulia skripal,

1033
01:01:43,862 --> 01:01:47,965
and the subsequent poisoning of
dawn sturgess and Charlie rowley.

1034
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,068
Since then, around
250 detectives

1035
01:01:51,103 --> 01:01:55,620
have trawled through more
than 11,000 hours of cctv

1036
01:01:55,655 --> 01:01:58,862
and taken more than
1,400 statements.

1037
01:01:59,724 --> 01:02:01,379
Working around the clock,

1038
01:02:01,413 --> 01:02:04,586
they have carried out
painstaking and methodical work

1039
01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:08,448
to ascertain exactly which
individuals were responsible

1040
01:02:08,482 --> 01:02:11,482
and the methods they
used to carry out this attack.

1041
01:02:14,689 --> 01:02:17,241
[Neil basu] Today we're
releasing images of two individuals

1042
01:02:17,275 --> 01:02:19,724
Alexander Petrov
and ruslan boshirov.

1043
01:02:19,758 --> 01:02:23,103
They're Russian nationals who traveled
to this country on Russian passports.

1044
01:02:23,137 --> 01:02:25,068
The reason we're releasing
that footage today is

1045
01:02:25,103 --> 01:02:26,551
we need the public's help.

1046
01:02:26,586 --> 01:02:29,758
We strongly believe they
entered this country under aliases.

1047
01:02:29,793 --> 01:02:31,551
Somebody out there
will recognize them.

1048
01:02:31,586 --> 01:02:33,137
Somebody out there knows them.

1049
01:02:33,172 --> 01:02:36,206
We'd like those people to come
forward and tell us who they really are.

1050
01:02:36,241 --> 01:02:37,838
So, what we now know
from the investigation is

1051
01:02:37,862 --> 01:02:41,620
that Petrov and boshirov
come in via Gatwick

1052
01:02:41,655 --> 01:02:44,827
on Friday afternoon
on the 2nd of march.

1053
01:02:46,965 --> 01:02:48,389
[Mills] On the day
of the poisonings,

1054
01:02:48,413 --> 01:02:52,275
you've got these two white
males dressed for the weather,

1055
01:02:52,310 --> 01:02:53,965
and they've got a
backpack with them.

1056
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,482
And we see them
arrive at the train station

1057
01:02:56,517 --> 01:02:59,620
and then ultimately make
their way out of the city.

1058
01:02:59,655 --> 01:03:01,689
We have good lines of inquiry

1059
01:03:01,724 --> 01:03:03,206
to try and establish
who they are,

1060
01:03:03,241 --> 01:03:04,310
but I need the evidence.

1061
01:03:04,344 --> 01:03:05,689
I need somebody to come forward

1062
01:03:05,724 --> 01:03:07,103
and give me their real names.

1063
01:03:09,379 --> 01:03:13,448
[Roman dobrokhotov] They ask
everybody for some more evidence

1064
01:03:14,413 --> 01:03:16,206
about what happened,

1065
01:03:16,241 --> 01:03:19,379
and it was pretty easy for us,

1066
01:03:19,413 --> 01:03:21,413
I mean the insider
and bellingcat,

1067
01:03:21,448 --> 01:03:22,413
to investigate them.

1068
01:03:22,448 --> 01:03:25,655
They made so many
very stupid mistakes.

1069
01:03:25,689 --> 01:03:26,896
My name is Roman dobrokhotov.

1070
01:03:26,931 --> 01:03:28,620
I'm editor-in-chief
of the insider,

1071
01:03:28,655 --> 01:03:31,241
which is Russian
investigative online media.

1072
01:03:34,413 --> 01:03:36,034
We found a lot of information.

1073
01:03:36,068 --> 01:03:37,793
When we started to pull it up,

1074
01:03:37,827 --> 01:03:41,344
we saw these people
in passport database,

1075
01:03:41,379 --> 01:03:44,517
but all the passport
info was empty.

1076
01:03:44,551 --> 01:03:46,586
It means that these
are fake people.

1077
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:49,344
These are not real identities.

1078
01:03:49,379 --> 01:03:54,482
We learned that boshirov and
Petrov are really mishkin and chepiga.

1079
01:03:54,517 --> 01:03:57,482
Chepiga participated in
the conflict in chechnya.

1080
01:03:57,517 --> 01:04:02,517
Mishkin was a military doctor, so he was
supposed to save, actually, people's lives.

1081
01:04:02,551 --> 01:04:04,034
Not to kill them.

1082
01:04:05,103 --> 01:04:08,517
There is a picture of
chepiga and Vladimir putin

1083
01:04:08,551 --> 01:04:12,689
where Vladimir putin is giving
a medal of hero of Russia,

1084
01:04:12,724 --> 01:04:15,620
handing it directly to chepiga.

1085
01:04:15,655 --> 01:04:21,827
There were absolutely no doubt that
this is an operation controlled by kremlin

1086
01:04:21,862 --> 01:04:23,620
through Russian
military intelligence.

1087
01:04:25,793 --> 01:04:28,000
[Speaking Russian]

1088
01:04:55,551 --> 01:04:57,758
[Speaking Russian]

1089
01:05:01,689 --> 01:05:03,482
Perhaps the most
extraordinary moment

1090
01:05:03,517 --> 01:05:05,931
in some ways in this case was

1091
01:05:05,965 --> 01:05:09,689
the interview the two
Russian gru officers,

1092
01:05:09,724 --> 01:05:10,941
the military
intelligence officers,

1093
01:05:10,965 --> 01:05:12,137
gave on Russia today.

1094
01:05:12,931 --> 01:05:14,758
[Speaking Russian]

1095
01:05:32,413 --> 01:05:33,965
I'm thinking it's
dumb and dumber.

1096
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,458
I think... I... You
know, I don't know

1097
01:05:35,482 --> 01:05:37,034
what the Russians were thinking.

1098
01:05:37,068 --> 01:05:38,862
I mean, they... yeah.

1099
01:05:38,896 --> 01:05:40,344
I'm hugely surprised.

1100
01:05:40,379 --> 01:05:41,793
They were...

1101
01:05:41,827 --> 01:05:44,310
Maybe this was
part of their joke.

1102
01:05:44,344 --> 01:05:47,586
They thought that people
in britain would fall for this.

1103
01:05:48,413 --> 01:05:50,517
[Speaking Russian]

1104
01:05:57,965 --> 01:06:02,103
It's not like James
Bond style spies.

1105
01:06:02,137 --> 01:06:08,448
It's more like Johnny
English kind of spy.

1106
01:06:08,482 --> 01:06:12,310
I think probably in some ways it was
the moment at which the rest of the world

1107
01:06:12,344 --> 01:06:15,137
woke up to the Russian
disinformation campaign

1108
01:06:15,172 --> 01:06:20,379
and realized that actually
what we had been telling them

1109
01:06:20,413 --> 01:06:23,379
about this case and about these
two individuals really was true.

1110
01:06:27,034 --> 01:06:29,251
[Dobrokhotov] But this actually
was only the beginning of the story

1111
01:06:29,275 --> 01:06:34,379
because we didn't believe
that two people is enough

1112
01:06:34,413 --> 01:06:36,034
for this kind of operation.

1113
01:06:36,068 --> 01:06:39,000
So there must be a
team helping them.

1114
01:06:40,206 --> 01:06:41,413
We found a third guy.

1115
01:06:41,448 --> 01:06:43,517
His real name is denis sergeev.

1116
01:06:43,551 --> 01:06:46,448
His fake name is sergey fedotov.

1117
01:06:46,482 --> 01:06:50,896
We found seven other gru agents
participated in the Salisbury poisoning.

1118
01:06:51,724 --> 01:06:54,172
We found a lot of other spies.

1119
01:06:54,206 --> 01:06:56,379
We found chain of command.

1120
01:06:56,413 --> 01:07:02,793
Now we know almost everything about
this program of extrajudicial murders

1121
01:07:02,827 --> 01:07:05,068
by Russian killing squads.

1122
01:07:07,827 --> 01:07:10,413
So, the police investigation
has now got evidence

1123
01:07:11,137 --> 01:07:13,241
to a criminal standard

1124
01:07:13,275 --> 01:07:16,000
of three people
involved in the attack.

1125
01:07:17,689 --> 01:07:21,551
We shouldn't assume that that's
where the investigation finishes,

1126
01:07:21,586 --> 01:07:26,275
and we shouldn't assume that
there were only three people involved.

1127
01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:30,517
Russian military intelligence would
often deploy more people than that

1128
01:07:30,551 --> 01:07:32,379
for overseas assassinations.

1129
01:07:36,344 --> 01:07:39,206
[Alexander yakovenko]
I think this is 1942.

1130
01:07:39,241 --> 01:07:40,896
So there's a war...
[Camera clicking]

1131
01:07:40,931 --> 01:07:42,862
[Charlie] We got invited,
me and my brother,

1132
01:07:42,896 --> 01:07:45,137
to see the Russian
ambassador in London.

1133
01:07:46,448 --> 01:07:49,034
And he seemed very pleasant,

1134
01:07:50,379 --> 01:07:51,965
friendly,

1135
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:57,448
but he was very much
trying to pass the buck,

1136
01:07:57,482 --> 01:07:58,586
so to speak,

1137
01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:00,068
and it was all denial

1138
01:08:00,103 --> 01:08:01,241
all the way.

1139
01:08:01,275 --> 01:08:03,448
For us, this is the
blessing from Russia.

1140
01:08:03,482 --> 01:08:08,137
I asked the ambassador if
his country killed my girlfriend,

1141
01:08:09,310 --> 01:08:11,379
and he said, "no."

1142
01:08:17,586 --> 01:08:19,275
It's my flat.

1143
01:08:19,310 --> 01:08:21,931
It's the first flat
that I've ever had.

1144
01:08:21,965 --> 01:08:23,827
They had to tear it down.

1145
01:08:24,965 --> 01:08:27,517
The perfume bottle that I had

1146
01:08:27,551 --> 01:08:30,034
could have wiped out
thousands of people.

1147
01:08:31,724 --> 01:08:33,103
Thousands of people,

1148
01:08:33,137 --> 01:08:36,965
with the amount of
nerve agent that was

1149
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:41,655
in the perfume
bottle found in my flat.

1150
01:08:41,689 --> 01:08:45,413
What I was told was that they had
discovered that there was nerve agent

1151
01:08:45,448 --> 01:08:47,379
in almost every
room of our house,

1152
01:08:47,413 --> 01:08:50,241
including my youngest
daughter's bedroom.

1153
01:08:50,275 --> 01:08:52,034
[Mills] Wedding rings, watches,

1154
01:08:52,068 --> 01:08:54,482
items from family members...

1155
01:08:54,517 --> 01:08:56,310
We had to say to
Nick and his family,

1156
01:08:56,344 --> 01:08:59,241
"sorry, you can take a couple
of possessions we can test,

1157
01:08:59,275 --> 01:09:02,724
but actually the rest we're gonna
have to, with partners, destroy."

1158
01:09:02,758 --> 01:09:04,241
That was a horrible moment.

1159
01:09:04,275 --> 01:09:07,896
[Nick] You know, the children
lost their toys, their books,

1160
01:09:07,931 --> 01:09:11,241
their clothes,
school certificates...

1161
01:09:11,275 --> 01:09:14,275
They lost everything that
meant something to them.

1162
01:09:14,310 --> 01:09:16,206
We lost everything that
meant something to us.

1163
01:09:17,862 --> 01:09:19,206
We had to move house

1164
01:09:19,241 --> 01:09:21,172
and we did lose about
all of our belongings,

1165
01:09:21,206 --> 01:09:24,862
but I'm incredibly lucky
that that's all we lost.

1166
01:09:29,758 --> 01:09:32,034
[Dr. Haslam] The whole
community was affected by this.

1167
01:09:32,068 --> 01:09:34,517
It was a traumatizing
experience.

1168
01:09:34,551 --> 01:09:36,151
I still feel emotional
thinking about it.

1169
01:09:36,724 --> 01:09:40,275
And I would say I was, um...

1170
01:09:40,310 --> 01:09:41,689
Drained

1171
01:09:41,724 --> 01:09:43,586
physically,
emotionally, mentally

1172
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:46,482
for probably six
months after this.

1173
01:09:46,517 --> 01:09:48,793
It took a toll on all of us.

1174
01:09:50,655 --> 01:09:54,655
I suppose one of the
really unanswered questions

1175
01:09:54,689 --> 01:09:57,275
about the Salisbury affair is,

1176
01:09:57,310 --> 01:10:00,068
you know, have we
found all of the novichok?

1177
01:10:00,103 --> 01:10:02,827
Was there another
delivery device?

1178
01:10:02,862 --> 01:10:08,517
I personally believe they probably
had a second perfume dispenser

1179
01:10:08,551 --> 01:10:12,655
because, you know, they wanted
to be sure that they'd do a good job.

1180
01:10:12,689 --> 01:10:17,689
I believe that it wasn't the same
bottle that poisoned the skripals

1181
01:10:17,724 --> 01:10:19,896
for the simple reason
the poison turned up

1182
01:10:19,931 --> 01:10:23,310
three months after
the initial poisoning.

1183
01:10:24,034 --> 01:10:25,310
It was in a box,

1184
01:10:25,344 --> 01:10:28,931
a sealed box in
a sealed package,

1185
01:10:28,965 --> 01:10:30,758
which I had to break open

1186
01:10:30,793 --> 01:10:36,206
and physically put two
parts of the pump together

1187
01:10:36,241 --> 01:10:37,655
to make it work.

1188
01:10:40,482 --> 01:10:42,596
[Rebecca] I don't think we know
everything that there is to know

1189
01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:44,827
about the nerve agent attack,

1190
01:10:46,241 --> 01:10:48,655
and part of me thinks we
probably won't ever know

1191
01:10:48,689 --> 01:10:51,206
the full ins and outs
of what happened.

1192
01:10:55,827 --> 01:11:00,931
[Nick] I retired from the
police in October 2018.

1193
01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:05,241
I was medically pensioned
through grounds of ill-health.

1194
01:11:05,275 --> 01:11:08,413
I was deemed not to be able to be
capable of being a police officer anymore

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under mental health reasons

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and psychological reasons

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because of the
Salisbury poisonings.

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[Charlie] I literally
poisoned my girlfriend.

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You know, unknowingly,

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but I still did it.

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Killed my girlfriend.

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You know?

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It's not a good...
Thing to live with.

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Mmm.